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<title>Outside of a Dog: Clancy, Tom: Red Storm Rising</title>
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<title>Trent Goulding</title>
<description>Trent Goulding wrote on June  6, 2005 at 11:40 AM: &lt;p&gt;You might choke a bit on Rainbow Six.  Clancy gets progressively more didactic and politically preachy, and (IMO) his characters get more cardboardy (and his villains more straw-manish), the later you get in his ouevre.  If I'm remembering Rainbow Six correctly, his nasty eco-terrorists are real eye-rolling fun.   But whatever you do, stay away from The Bear and the Dragon....&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Kate</title>
<description>Kate wrote on June  6, 2005 at 12:21 PM: &lt;p&gt;Trent: Well, see, the reason I'm embarrased is that I've *read* _Rainbow Six_. The ridiculous villains were indeed ridiculous, but I recall the set-pieces about the team being likely to scratch the bedtime reading itch.  I'm skipping all Jack Ryan novels after _The Hunt for Red October_--actually _Patriot Games_ might be okay, but I read them through _Executive Orders_ and have no desire to go back there.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>David Tate</title>
<description>David Tate wrote on September 19, 2005 at  3:30 PM: &lt;p&gt;I don&amp;#8217;t think &lt;em&gt;Patriot Games&lt;/em&gt; counts as &amp;#8220;after THfRO&amp;#8221;.  It&amp;#8217;s set earlier in time, and is MUCH rougher in both style and craft.  I suspect an early work, unpublishable prior to the success of tHfRO but brought out of mothballs thereafter.  (There&amp;#8217;s a name for that sort of thing, but derned if I can remember it.)&lt;/p&gt;  	&lt;p&gt;Personally, I stopped after reading &lt;em&gt;Clear and Present Danger&lt;/em&gt;, and haven&amp;#8217;t ever regretted that.  I got quite a bit of enjoyment out of the early ones, but the handwriting was clearly on the wall, and everything I&amp;#8217;ve heard about &lt;em&gt;The Sum of All Fears&lt;/em&gt; et seq. makes me think I chose wisely.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Kate</title>
<description>Kate wrote on September 19, 2005 at  7:42 PM: &lt;p&gt;David, the phrase you want is &amp;#8220;trunk novel,&amp;#8221; I believe. I seem to have left &lt;em&gt;Patriot Games&lt;/em&gt; in the backlog, but yeah, it was pretty bad.&lt;/p&gt;  	&lt;p&gt;I only read half of &lt;em&gt;The Sum of All Fears&lt;/em&gt;, skipping all the &amp;#8220;how to build a nuclear bomb&amp;#8221; parts. That may well have been where I stopped reading as well, except for &lt;em&gt;Rainbow Six&lt;/em&gt;. (looks guilty)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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